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	<title>Comments on: The ads in Munich are speaking to me.</title>
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		<title>By: oinkay</title>
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		<dc:creator>oinkay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2006 10:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from what i understand, the better most beans were made up by the prop company --  B etter B eans M ost...  

the whisky was called &#039;old rose&#039; and alludes to them growing older, young and &quot;stemmin&#039; the rose&quot; on the mountain, and then later, older, but still stemmin&#039;... haha. if you notice, there were roses throughout the film, in paintings, on wallpaper, etc.

the girl with the picking idly at the coke bottle was alma jr., ennis&#039; daughter. if that&#039;s ad placement, it&#039;s very subtle. that&#039;s like saying cassie&#039;s silly shoes were an ad for famolares or something. everybody makes something, and a movie about life can&#039;t help but have products that help paint the landscape of a film. of course, the obvious ads, like the macdonald&#039;s &quot;ad&quot; in fifth element, is overkill, but what are they supposed to do? remove all chrome from trucks to make them generic? people would still recognize the vehicle by the body design. 

i didn&#039;t see spielberg&#039;s munch, but i think BBM did a fairly even handed job with the product placement. and even so, it&#039;s a wonder those companies allowed themselves to be connected to a movie about gay cowboys, how un-american is that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from what i understand, the better most beans were made up by the prop company &#8212;  B etter B eans M ost&#8230;  </p>
<p>the whisky was called &#8216;old rose&#8217; and alludes to them growing older, young and &#8220;stemmin&#8217; the rose&#8221; on the mountain, and then later, older, but still stemmin&#8217;&#8230; haha. if you notice, there were roses throughout the film, in paintings, on wallpaper, etc.</p>
<p>the girl with the picking idly at the coke bottle was alma jr., ennis&#8217; daughter. if that&#8217;s ad placement, it&#8217;s very subtle. that&#8217;s like saying cassie&#8217;s silly shoes were an ad for famolares or something. everybody makes something, and a movie about life can&#8217;t help but have products that help paint the landscape of a film. of course, the obvious ads, like the macdonald&#8217;s &#8220;ad&#8221; in fifth element, is overkill, but what are they supposed to do? remove all chrome from trucks to make them generic? people would still recognize the vehicle by the body design. </p>
<p>i didn&#8217;t see spielberg&#8217;s munch, but i think BBM did a fairly even handed job with the product placement. and even so, it&#8217;s a wonder those companies allowed themselves to be connected to a movie about gay cowboys, how un-american is that?</p>
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		<title>By: risa</title>
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		<dc:creator>risa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, he was in the mirror this week too. 

this reminds me of something my dad john told me about - the practice of sending out press kits on research. it goes on in psychology, sometimes before much conclusive data has actually been accumulated. that&#039;s why i liked matt&#039;s interview in the mirror- where he could have trumpeted suspicions or even relatively well-founded hypothesis to make the &quot;most&quot; of his limelight time, he instead emphasized the importance of critical conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, he was in the mirror this week too. </p>
<p>this reminds me of something my dad john told me about &#8211; the practice of sending out press kits on research. it goes on in psychology, sometimes before much conclusive data has actually been accumulated. that&#8217;s why i liked matt&#8217;s interview in the mirror- where he could have trumpeted suspicions or even relatively well-founded hypothesis to make the &#8220;most&#8221; of his limelight time, he instead emphasized the importance of critical conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 03:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go Matt Soar!

*Canadian website lets people track brands in films*


http://www.cbc.ca/story/arts/national/2006/03/12/productplacement-website.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go Matt Soar!</p>
<p>*Canadian website lets people track brands in films*</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cbc.ca/story/arts/national/2006/03/12/productplacement-website.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbc.ca/story/arts/national/2006/03/12/productplacement-website.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2006 13:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NB - liked the post; i just saw munich last night and the branding was absent, which is to say that my gaze didn&#039;t register them. yet, as you say, different optics, different films. i was sutured into the sweeping events... you leave the intentionality of product placement open, which is great because it suggests the very accepted ubiquity of these kinds of signs and the affects and effects they have - common-sense, taken for granted. films - arguably different from commercial television where the program is the free lunch (i.e., the ads are the &quot;real&quot; contents) - are discrete and have a unity not found in western-style tv programming and content organization. a commercial every six miniutes is not indidental nor natural (duh). when ads do dominate in movies, it&#039;s apparent, or at least that&#039;s what i&#039;d like to think...but when i take no notice, does that mean the ads aren&#039;t apparent or that they aren&#039;t registering or that, maybe, i&#039;ve trained myself to not salivate with the bell-ringing or that they&#039;re working across that virtual level of the uncnscious so favoured by ideologically-charged film criticism of the late 60&#039;s and early 70&#039;s...? dunno.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NB &#8211; liked the post; i just saw munich last night and the branding was absent, which is to say that my gaze didn&#8217;t register them. yet, as you say, different optics, different films. i was sutured into the sweeping events&#8230; you leave the intentionality of product placement open, which is great because it suggests the very accepted ubiquity of these kinds of signs and the affects and effects they have &#8211; common-sense, taken for granted. films &#8211; arguably different from commercial television where the program is the free lunch (i.e., the ads are the &#8220;real&#8221; contents) &#8211; are discrete and have a unity not found in western-style tv programming and content organization. a commercial every six miniutes is not indidental nor natural (duh). when ads do dominate in movies, it&#8217;s apparent, or at least that&#8217;s what i&#8217;d like to think&#8230;but when i take no notice, does that mean the ads aren&#8217;t apparent or that they aren&#8217;t registering or that, maybe, i&#8217;ve trained myself to not salivate with the bell-ringing or that they&#8217;re working across that virtual level of the uncnscious so favoured by ideologically-charged film criticism of the late 60&#8242;s and early 70&#8242;s&#8230;? dunno.</p>
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